Monday, January 24, 2011

Gov. Levying Money from Brits. Illegally

..All MPs should be fully aware, and arguing robustly in the House of Commons - instead of complaining 'how did we get here? Most of us are more than "miffed", but extremely angry at the sheer scale of government indifference to the use and misdirection of taxpayer's money.
The key phrase, I suggest, in the comment below is:
"Seeing how Parliament had not approved the deal", is extremely important.

Quite apart from the whole Eurozone bail out project (not) having any connection with British taxpayers, as we were constantly being assured by ministers over the years that no liabilities would fall on the UK, any "deal" negotiated by Darling, or any other government representative is illegal. If Parliament has not been presented with, debated, and passed the proposals then it is not binding upon the taxpayer. Why then did he not invoke the clear terms of our Bill of Rights?
This says unequivocally:

"That levying money for, or to the use of the Crown by pretence of prerogative without consent of Parlament is illegal".

I am amazed that MPs and supposedly eurosceptics appear to be so unaware of the powerful constitutional tool that is available for them to use in such circumstances.
They could have invoked any number of the relevant Statutes of our Constitution, and indeed can still do so. In particular the Bill of Rights which as we know, is still current law - in effect the law of the land, and not subject to implied repeal by EU legislation passing through our parliament by proxy.
Perhaps Douglas can enlighten those who admire his anti EU credentials, but are constantly puzzled by his failure to apply constitutional law)
Kind regards,
Graham Wood
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How did we end up in the Euro debt union?
Like me, perhaps you were a little miffed to discover that non-Euro member Britain turns out to be liable for Euro zone debts. Despite keeping out of the currency union, we've somehow got ensnared in the Euro debt union.

How did this happen?
The key deal, making the UK liable for the Stabilisation Mechanism, was done in May last year, after the old Parliament was dissolved, but before the new one got going.

Out-going Chancellor, Alistair Darling, negotiated the deal on May 9th, during the General Election.

But there is more to it than that.

Convention means government cannot embark on new policy between Parliaments. And indeed, we know that Mr Darling consulted George Osborne before he went ahead and signed Britain up.

So, what did those Darling consulted have to say about the deal? A firm 'no'?, perhaps, on the basis that we had to deal with the deficit ahead of bailing out the Euro? Or did they nod along with established Treasury policy?

According to the reply I've just got from a Freedom of Information request, 'the parties did cooperate with one another'?. And 'with senior civil servants'? too. Although they won't tell us what approval was actually given.

Seeing how Parliament had not approved the deal, incoming ministers must have known that they could have quashed the whole Darling deal, had they sought to.

Read the reply for yourself
. It sounds to me that they won't let us read what incoming Coalition ministers actually said because they fear it might just look a bit embarrassing –“ or in Sir Humphrey-speak 'the context here deserves special consideration'?.

We keep being told that Britain will only face massive Euro bailout liabilities until 2013. But if ministers had been a little savvier on day one, we'd not be liable for the debt crashes about to happen in Spain, Portugal, Greece and Ireland in 2011 and 2012.

If I am wrong, ministers should publish details of the advice that they were given and the instructions that they gave.

How did we end up in the Euro debt union? by Douglas Carswell
Posted on 6 January 2011 http://www.talkcarswell.com/default.aspx?date=201101