Recently European Comr. for Agriculture, Dacion Ciolos, has said, "any business that relies upon subsidies (grants, tax breaks) is NOT A REAL BUSINESS." (Oh dear, that's practically every Third Sector set up!)
www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/AlanWattPodCast.xml
I strongly suggest you turn off BBC Radio 1 or 4 (permanently)
And listen to Alan Watt’s August 11th ’09 broadcast entitled,
“Sustainability -- looks kinda' like the system in China.”